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New Yorker writer tangles with Jean-Pierre: ‘I’m not sure what you’re saying’

  • On Monday, The New Yorker published an interview with Karine Jean-Pierre that left Isaac Chotiner repeatedly saying `I'm not sure what you're saying` during her muddled defense of Joe Biden.
  • Jean-Pierre, author of a new memoir, says she left the Democratic Party in June and her book released last week contends leaders pushed Biden out after a poor debate.
  • She recounts firsthand that party figures engaged in what Jean‑Pierre says was "an all-out, full-on campaign" to embarrass and push Biden out after a disastrous debate, which she watched closely.
  • Social media users and commentators reacted by mocking Karine Jean‑Pierre's interview and calling her answers incoherent, while she told MSNBC on Saturday she was proud of her Biden administration record and did not take anything back.
  • The episode underscores that party unity was strained by lower turnout than 2020 and incumbency concerns that shaped Democratic leaders' calculations about replacing Biden.
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