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Jony Ive and Laurene Powell Jobs Admit to 'Dark' Side of Tech

Following OpenAI's $6.4 billion purchase of his AI startup io, Jony Ive joined Laurene Powell Jobs for a rare joint interview with the Financial Times in 2025 to discuss their partnership and the future of the technology.
The interview came as Powell Jobs, an early investor in io and widow of Steve Jobs, remains closely involved with Ive's post-Apple work and their shared concerns about technology's social impact.
They discussed a new, undisclosed AI hardware device designed with a mentality that 'we deserve better,' reflecting their belief that technology has negatively affected mental health, especially among youth.
Ive highlighted troubling trends in studies on teenage girls and anxiety, saying society has taken a wrong turn, while Powell Jobs pointed out that some technologies can be misused in harmful ways, underlining that innovation often brings unexpected positive and negative effects.
Their collaboration, supported by Powell Jobs, underlines cautious optimism about technology’s future despite acknowledging its harmful effects and the role their products played in that trajectory.

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