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‘I’m Not Gonna Debate a Podcaster!’ Former Trump Chief of Staff Snaps During NewsNation Argument

Former Trump Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney declined to debate over the Republican budget adding $4 trillion to the national debt, highlighting deep party divisions.

Summary by Mediaite
A NewsNation debate between former Trump chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and progressive podcast host Brian Tyler Cohen blew up on Tuesday, with Mulvaney snapping, “I’m not gonna debate a podcaster.” After Mulvaney protested, “The government’s too big. It just is. We’re $37 trillion in debt,” Cohen responded, “When we talk about this idea that the government is too big, that there’s too much spending– I mean, Mick, it’s your party.” “It’s Donald Tr…

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Mediaite broke the news in United States on Wednesday, October 1, 2025.
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