Minister of Social Affairs Joller: our country is still capitalist in nature, meaning that if a person gets a higher salary, they can afford more.

Karmen Joller believes that her subordinate agency, the Social Insurance Board (SKA), is not a punitive body that should punish the Pihlakodu nursing home, which has been embroiled in a rape scandal. Rather, they should think about what could be done better, and even about the insurance of the resident.