Kale and Kokkie still positive about Ajax: "Better to lose 4-0 in one go"

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After the 4-0 defeat in Utrecht, Kale and Kokkie are still positive about Ajax, despite the fact that there was certainly disappointment. "It is better to lose 4-0 in one go than four times 1-0." The duo is also enthusiastic about the 'twelve-kilo Ajax encyclopedia' in honor of the club's 125th anniversary. "It is beautiful and contains the most beautiful photos."