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Book Says Pence’s Unpublished Notes Provide New Details on Jan. 6 Interactions with Trump

Mike Pence's handwritten notes reveal Trump insulted and pressured him to block Biden's certification on Jan. 6, evidence planned for use in Special Counsel Jack Smith's case.

  • In previously unpublished notes, Mike Pence, former Vice President, recorded Donald Trump, then-President, warning `If you do that, I made a big mistake 5 years ago,` as reported by Jonathan Karl based on Pence's notes.
  • In the days before the certification, Donald Trump and his loyalists repeatedly pressed Mike Pence to block Joe Biden's certification, but Pence consistently rebuffed them, citing their oath to the Constitution.
  • Witnesses told the House Select Committee on Jan. 6 the call grew heated, aides including Nicholas Luna recalled hearing the word wimp, and Pence's notes show a scribbled angry emoji with Trump saying `You listen to the wrong people.
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On the day that his supporters attacked the U.S. Capitol because of his defeat in the 2020 presidential elections, Donald Trump called on his vice-president from then on, Mike Pence, and told him that he would remain in history as a “lasha” if he would testify to the outcome of the trial, according to a new letter, reports The Guardian.

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